If you’re even somewhat involved in the craft beer or homebrewing scene in South Africa, you might have heard of names like the Wort Hogs or the SouthYeasters.

A quartet of global brewing gurus will be speaking at the annual Craft Brewers Powwow, held in Cape Town in May. We grabbed five minutes with US craft brewing legend Doug Odell, co-founder of Odell’s Brewing Co. in Colorado.